WTF, over?

Oct. 9th, 2009 09:23 pm
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Don't get me wrong, I like Obama as much as the next Godless Liberal, but what, exactly, has he done worthy of a Peace prize? Aside from not being Shrub, that is.

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Date: 2009-10-09 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kinshar.livejournal.com
Agreeing with the EU?

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Date: 2009-10-09 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benet.livejournal.com
All I can say is, it'll make for an awesome "That's Great, Now Fix The Economy".

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Date: 2009-10-09 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wytchelf.livejournal.com
Yeah, I like him, but I feel the same way.

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Date: 2009-10-10 01:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmorley.livejournal.com
Yeah. I don't get that either. Maybe at the end of his term, but right now it's just for wishful thinking. I think.

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Date: 2009-10-10 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] entropy156.livejournal.com
That's it. That's all he's done: He's not George W. Bush. On a related note, neither am I and I've done at least as much for "peace" as President Teleprompter, therefore I will expect my Nobel Peace Prize to arrive by mail any fuckin' day now.

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Date: 2009-10-10 05:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bobmage.livejournal.com
Really? You semi-normalized relations with Russia? Good Job!

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Date: 2009-10-10 06:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] entropy156.livejournal.com
Yeah, I have actually. One Russian fetish model at a time. And I'm pretty sure that in the 11 days between when President Teleprompter took office and when the nominations ended for the Nobel Peace Prize, he didn't "semi-normalize" a goddamn thing.

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Date: 2009-10-10 07:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bobmage.livejournal.com
It's funny how the "Teleprompter" bit drives some people nuts - it's like you're desperate to minimize the fact that he's smarter than the empty suit he replaced. Of course he uses a teleprompter. When he was teaching, I bet he had notes when he was giving a lecture, too. He speaks in complete sentences, about complex subjects - and you think it's strange that he doesn't do it all from memory? Odd world you live in, where caring about doing your job right is a defect.

And the decision as to whether he got the prize was made last week. The nomination was "on spec" - they could have given the prize to someone else, with no one the wiser. Instead, they chose to make a statement - that they're really glad the most powerful country in the world is being run by grownups now.

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Date: 2009-10-10 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] entropy156.livejournal.com
He doesn't "speak" in any sentences....he reads the words provided to him and makes caring expressions and firm, authoritative gestures while doing so. He is an empty vessel filled with the words of Ayers and Alinsky. Would you like me to show you video examples of what happens when this man of "complete sentences" and "complex subjects" does when his thoroughly required Teleprompter fails? There are plenty of them floating around on YouTube. The man is a cypher. When the teleprompter fails, so does he....because there is no "him". He's a shell which contains the thoughts and ambitions of the socialists and radicals he patterned himself after....and still denys to this day, despite a bewildering number of "czars" he's appointed who espouse those very views.

And clearly, the country is now being run by grownups....you can tell by the way they've quadrupled the deficit that they're serious men who take their responsibilities seriously and nothing at all like a college freshman who has gone off on a spending spree after mom gave him a credit card. After all....it's just money, right?

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Date: 2009-10-13 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kinshar.livejournal.com
To be fair I don't think any President in the last 30 years, likely far longer, has been able to function without their speech writers. We are far past the days when we had fine extemporaneous speakers as our President. If you ask any questions that he/she has not planned for of a politician today you'll get a garbled barely intelligible response.

Of course I'm of the opinion that much of the vitriol towards Bush was based on his accent as much as the content of his speeches. He didn't sound like many people thought a president should.

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Date: 2009-10-13 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaotic-nipple.livejournal.com
It also didn't help that his Texas drawl was pure affectation. Go watch some clips of him speaking from before his rise to power; He spoke with the same educated, upper-class accent and vocabulary that the rest of his family does. Yet people were still stupid enough to buy into the "President Good Ol' Boy" schtick.
Edited Date: 2009-10-13 08:03 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2009-10-13 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaotic-nipple.livejournal.com
Yet even at his most incoherent, Obama still sounds better than Shrub did on his best day. Oh, wait, that's a sign of Bush's "authenticity", I forgot...

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Date: 2009-10-13 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] entropy156.livejournal.com
Well, if slick packaging of terrible ideas is what you value, then congratulations...you got him! Yeah...Bush was not what you'd call a world class public speaker...but he also didn't have a bunch of Socialists and outright Communists as his most trusted advisors.

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Date: 2009-10-14 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaotic-nipple.livejournal.com
If your personal definition of those words is really that broad, then I don't think we have sufficient common ground to have a meaningful discussion, so let's just agree not to even try, mm'kay?

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