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Forwarded from [livejournal.com profile] schrathe:

Iran to hang teenage girl attacked by rapists.

"Tehran, Iran, Jan. 07 – An Iranian court has sentenced a teenage rape victim to death by hanging after she weepingly confessed that she had unintentionally killed a man who had tried to rape both her and her niece.

The state-run daily Etemaad reported on Saturday that 18-year-old Nazanin confessed to stabbing one of three men who had attacked the pair along with their boyfriends while they were spending some time in a park west of the Iranian capital in March 2005.

Nazanin, who was 17 years old at the time of the incident, said that after the three men started to throw stones at them, the two girls’ boyfriends quickly escaped on their motorbikes leaving the pair helpless.

She described how the three men pushed her and her 16-year-old niece Somayeh onto the ground and tried to rape them, and said that she took out a knife from her pocket and stabbed one of the men in the hand.

As the girls tried to escape, the men once again attacked them, and at this point, Nazanin said, she stabbed one of the men in the chest. The teenage girl, however, broke down in tears in court as she explained that she had no intention of killing the man but was merely defending herself and her younger niece from rape, the report said.

The court, however, issued on Tuesday a sentence for Nazanin to be hanged to death."

Someone explain to me again how Western Culture is supposed to be so sexist and evil?

Clarification to snarky comment: No, I don't think that Western Culture is perfect. It has a wide variety of problems that will take lifetimes to fix. I maintain that we have come farther towards the goal of universal equality than any other contemporary (or most historical) society, and claiming that we're "just as bad", or worse, than the rest of the world, is counterproductive, and only serves to alienate or discourage people whao want to make our society better than it already is. Also, it encourages run-on sentences.

Note: It would be most appreciated if everyone were to make at least a token effort towards civil discussion, and _not_ immediately assume that disagreement and/or criticism is tantamount to a personal attack. Thank you.

Funny, both of the flame wars that have taken place on my blog were instigated by the same person. What are the odds?

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Date: 2006-01-28 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaotic-nipple.livejournal.com
"Bottom line is, if you'd left out the snarky comparisons, it would be a story about women's rights abuses. Add the comparison, and it's just a way of making people feel better about their culture."

And if you'd began your participation here with a little civility, instead of jumping right to the sarcasm and insults, maybe this could have been a productive discussion instead of a flame war.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-01-28 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginmar.livejournal.com
Yeah, because of course I started by telling someone to fuck off and calling them mentally ill.

Oh, wait.....

(no subject)

Date: 2006-01-28 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaotic-nipple.livejournal.com
And I told sappersgt to lay off with the "Yer crazy!" talk, as soon as I read that comment. Doesn't change the fact that you came here jonesin' for a flame war.

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Date: 2006-01-28 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginmar.livejournal.com
Sweetie, if you think calling someobdy on their one-sided religious criticsm is flaming, you need to get out more. What tender sensabilities.

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Date: 2006-01-28 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaotic-nipple.livejournal.com
No, it was your snarky, deliberately antagonistic manner. The very same sort of thing that irritates you when done on your blog. You complain when people are rude to you, yet you have no problem going and behaving in the _exact_same_manner_ on other people's pages.

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Date: 2006-01-28 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginmar.livejournal.com
I'm sorry, but that wasn't rude. You're accusing me of a standard that you percieve I have, but your perceptoins are incorrect. If anyone reacted offensively, it was the other two, who responded to snark with 'fuck off' and comments about mental illness. You don't seem to find that escalation disturbing at all, and it continued for quite a while.

One of your readers insulted a major religion and I took exception to it, and they got offended. They did not specify only Iran's Muslims, but Islam itself. I guess that's not flaming to you. If so, we have such different definitions that there's no point in continueing this conversation.

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Date: 2006-01-29 12:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaotic-nipple.livejournal.com
As you're seemingly incapable of conceding a point about anything, then yes, let's cease discussion. So, howsabout that weather we been having? A lot less sand these days...

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