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Holocaust survivors to Mormons: Stop baptisms of dead Jews

Holocaust survivors said Monday they are through trying to negotiate with the Mormon church over posthumous baptisms of Jews killed in Nazi concentration camps, saying the church has repeatedly violated a 13-year-old agreement barring the practice.

My understanding is that the Mormon ritual doesn't have anything to do with the actual, physical remains of the victims, a living person is baptized in their place. In which case, I don't see what harm is done. Then again, I don't see what benefit could possibly be done either, as I'm an atheist. I imagine if I had any belief in an afterlife, or that the rituals of the living could possibly affect the circumstances of the dead, I might feel differently. Given that the Mormons honestly believe that they are saving the souls* of the deceased, I think they're morally obliged to keep doing so, regardless of what other mere mortals think.

Now, if the Mormons were retroactively declaring that the dead really shared their beliefs all along (like certain Pagans claim that the victims of the Inquisition were all really witches), then I would object on the grounds that people shouldn't delude themselves into believing a demonstrably false history, but that's a different matter entirely (And one which the Mormons in particular can also be criticized on, but then again, so can most other religious groups).

*Or "reuniting them in the afterlife", or whatever, it's all the same to me.
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Ganked from [ profile] filkertom:
1. Do you have the guts to answer these questions and re-post as The Controversial Survey?

No, you can stop reading now.

2. Would you do meth if it was legal?

Probably not.

3. Abortion: for or against it?

As I am not a female, biological or otherwise, it's none of my damn business. And unless you, personally, possess a functioning uterus, it's none of yours either.

4. Do you think the world would fail with a female president?

The world has a president?

5. Do you believe in the death penalty?

In principle, yes, but in practice, our justice system has proven itself to be too fallable to be trusted with that sort of power.

6. Do you wish marijuana would be legalized already?

Yes. if only so the stoners would quit whining about it.

7. Are you for or against premarital sex?


8. Do you believe in God?

Nope. Gee, this survey is easy!

9. Do you think same sex marriage should be legalized?

Yes. As should polygamy. If non-human sapience is ever engineered, then AIs, posthumans, and uplifted squid should all be eligible too.

10. Do you think it's wrong that so many Hispanics are illegally moving to the USA?

I think it's "wrong" in the sense that it's illegal, and the human trafficers who profit from it are usually tied up in other criminality too, and the government does have a legitimate interest in cracking down on it. That said, I don't really condemn the illegals, as they're only doing exactly what I would do in their situation.

Edit: If we _really_ want to crack down, we should start deporting their employers. They're the real criminals, IMO.

11. A twelve year old girl has a baby, should she keep it?

Generally "no", but I'm sure there are exceptional 12 year olds out there who can handle the responsibilities.

12. Should the alcohol age be lowered to eighteen?


13. Should the war in Iraq be called off?

Called on account of sun? It's hot as a mofo there...

14. Assisted suicide is illegal: do you agree?

Yes, I agree that it's illegal. I'm getting the feeling that the writer of this meme isn't as bright as they think they are.

15. Do you believe in spanking your children?

In some circumstances. If a child is too young to understand reason, and engaged in behavior that present an active danger to themselves or others, then a little aversive conditioning is perfectly justifiable. It should never be because the parent was simply upset, or because the child was "bad", it should be a simple matter of what stimulus is most effective to get the kid to learn.

16. Would you burn an American flag for a million dollars?

Considering that that _is_ the approved method of disposing of worn out flags, then yes, I would pocket the money, and then burn the flag with all due ceremony and reverence.

17. Who do you think would make a better president? McCain or Obama?

We'd beter HOPE it's Obama now. :-)

18. Are you afraid others will judge you from reading some of your answers?

Not really.
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Would be my name if I were born to Sarah Palin. Or possibly "Package Wichita Palin", which sounds like a rather desperate porn name. Disclaimer: I approve wholeheartedly of people giving their children unusual names, but I still think this is funny.

And speaking of Palin, the rumor a few weeks back regarding her youngest kid's actual parentage turned out to have probably* been false, but the official "Went into premature labor so jumped the first 10 hour flight home so her baby could be born in ALASKA, by God!" story is fishy as hell. Anyone with such poor judgement shouldn't be trusted with children at all, much less nuclear launch codes. So what I think happened was, there was no surprise labor, or if there was, it happened after she got back to Alaska. She went in an got labor induced, whether for pressing medical reasons, or just because it was at a time convenient to her schedule. Something that plenty of women do, but which wouldn't necessarily endear her to the "base", so she made up some bullshit story to get sympathy. Of course I can't prove this, but if it turns out to be true, I WILL say "I told you so!"

*Because they _could_ still be lying about the timing, or even the fact of, the daughters current pregnancy. Not likely, though.
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... Then anyone who babbled about how slavery* "wasn't that bad", would IMMEDIATELY be abducted and sold to a third world sweatshop, chained to a sewing machine, fed maggoty gruel, and beaten daily. Five years later, they would be asked if they still felt the same.

Edit: Slavery of the near modern, New World variety. In an ancient context where slaves really _weren't_ any worse off than free peasants, this doesn't apply.
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Since PZ Myers orders it, I post a link the the Expelled Exposed website. Hail Darwin!
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The Bible is now officially being translated into LOLCat. Also, PZ Myers is officially Expelled.

Darn it.

Mar. 7th, 2008 04:53 pm
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I'd really like to go see Richard Dawkins next week, but I'll probably be asleep. Considering how liberal Madison is, there probably won't be any protesters either. Maybe I should encourage our local religionists to remedy that? Hmmm...
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... Is going to have the most motivated, hard-core crew EVER:
Ship built with WTC steel christened. The USS New York, an amphibious assault ship built with scrap steel from the ruins of the World Trade Center, was christened Saturday as a source of strength and inspiration for the nation.

Other news: This is both fucked-up as Hell, and perversely awesome: A supervisor at a motivational coaching business in Provo is accused of waterboarding an employee in front of his sales team to demonstrate that they should work as hard on sales as the employee had worked to breathe.

This, on the other hand, is just fucked up: Judge jailed for refusing to sit in court with crucifix. An Italian judge was sentenced to a year in prison for refusing to sit in a courtroom with a crucifix on the wall, his lawyer said. Sad that stupidity like this should take place, but at least it's not happening _here_...

While I find the whole concept of "aristocracy" deeply abhorrent, even I have to admit that Prince Harry's one of the "good ones".

Random thoughts: I wonder how long it will be before the purveyers of the "Black Confederates" meme notice that Nazi Germany's military had a small number of ethnically "Jewish" soldiers in their ranks, and therefore conclude that the Nazi's weren't really anti-semitic?

Also, peoples should read Ctrl+Alt+Del, Divalicious, and Sketchies.

update I am a bad boyfriend, as I did not credit the wonderful and awesometastic [ profile] nanimo for Ctrl+Alt+Del. Forgive, Mistress! Forgive! (sob)
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Muslim helps Jews attacked on New York subway.

NEW YORK (CNN) -- A Muslim man jumped to the aid of three Jewish subway riders after they were attacked by a group of young people who objected to one of the Jews saying "Happy Hanukkah," a spokeswoman for the three said Wednesday.


Friday's altercation on the Q train began when somebody yelled out "Merry Christmas," to which rider Walter Adler responded, "Happy Hanukkah," said Toba Hellerstein.

"Almost immediately, you see the look in this guy's face like I've called his mother something," Adler told CNN affiliate WABC.

Two women who were with a group of 10 rowdy people then began to verbally assault Adler's companions with anti-Semitic language, Hellerstein said.

One member of the group allegedly yelled, "Oh, Hanukkah. That's the day that the Jews killed Jesus," she said.

When Adler tried to intercede, a male member of the group punched him, she said.

Another passenger, Hassan Askari -- a Muslim student from Bangladesh -- came to Adler's aid, and the group began physically and verbally assaulting him, Hellerstein said.

Ah, the sweet, sweet irony of Faux News "War on Christmas" spilling over into the real world, where it revealed for the sham that it is. Happy New Years, people (and others).
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Priests brawl at Bethlehem birthplace of Jesus.

BETHLEHEM, West Bank (AFP) - Seven people were injured on Thursday when Greek Orthodox and Armenian priests came to blows in a dispute over how to clean the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem.

Following the Christmas celebrations, Greek Orthodox priests set up ladders to clean the walls and ceilings of their part of the church, which is built over the site where Jesus Christ is believed to have been born.

But the ladders encroached on space controlled by Armenian priests, according to photographers who said angry words ensued and blows quickly followed.

God bless us, every one!
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... Then will someone remind me when the last time was that a _pro-war_ demonstrator got physically assaulted by his counterparts? Oh, wait, though, all those guys on Little Green Fascists and the like who claim that their "Dubya" bumper stickers got ripped off their hummers, why, that's at _least_ as bad as this. Silly me. Once again my opinion that the standard 'Liberal' position on gun control is stupid is re-enforced, because their may come a time when the right to Keep and Bear arms is all that stands between us "America-hating traitors" and the death camps that these wanna-be brownshirts would love to set up.
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Clowns KKKick KKK ass!

Saturday May 26th the VNN Vanguard Nazi/KKK group attempted to host a hate rally to try to take advantage of the brutal murder of a white couple for media and recruitment purposes...

Unfortunately for them the 100th ARA (Anti Racist Action) clown block came and handed them their asses by making them appear like the asses they were.

“White Power!” the Nazi’s shouted, “White Flour?” the clowns yelled back running in circles throwing flour in the air and raising separate letters which spelt “White Flour”.

“White Power!” the Nazi’s angrily shouted once more, “White flowers?” the clowns cheers and threw white flowers in the air and danced about merrily.

“White Power!” the Nazi’s tried once again in a doomed and somewhat funny attempt to clarify their message, “ohhhhhh!” the clowns yelled “Tight Shower!” and held a solar shower in the air and all tried to crowd under to get clean as per the Klan’s directions.

At this point several of the Nazi’s and Klan members began clutching their hearts as if they were about to have a heart attack. Their beady eyes bulged, and the veins in their tiny narrow foreheads beat in rage. One last time they screamed “White Power!”

The clown women thought they finally understood what the Klan was trying to say. “Ohhhhh…” the women clowns said. “Now we understand…”, “WIFE POWER!” they lifted the letters up in the air, grabbed the nearest male clowns and lifted them in their arms and ran about merrily chanting “WIFE POWER! WIFE POWER! WIFE POWER!”

I dearly wish I could have been there. :-D Of course, some morons in the comment section whine that this sort of counter-protest is "censorship", and proves that it's us godless lib'ruls who are _really_ the intolerant ones. Poor babies.
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... For refusing to ride in the back of the bus. Absolutely disgraceful, I expect immediate condemnation from every corner of the blogosphere for the backwards country involved. I'll start holding my breath right about... now.


Apr. 18th, 2007 08:08 pm
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It seems the psycho of the week was a legal immigrant from South Korea, from a Christian family background, and he referenced "Dying like Jesus" in his suicide note. Our course of action is clear, then: We must halt all immigration by Koreans, and scrutinize every Christian in the country before _they_ commit mass murder too.

What's that, you say? There is no evidence whatsoever that his ethnicity or religion played any part in this? In the absence of such evidence, it is the height of stupidity and dishonesty to suggest there is? Why, you're absolutely right.


Mar. 31st, 2007 12:50 am
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As I inch further and further into decrepitude and senility, I find myself seriously considering the virtues of sterilization. It seems increasingly unlikely that I'll ever actually get married, leaving the only possibility of reproduction being a drunken tryst, and that would just be plain irresponsible. I have enough relatives that most of my genes have already been passed on, and if I ever _do_ get hitched, there's always adoption.

Anyway, here's linky things: Marvel at The School Prayer Riots, thrill to Bootleg Jack Chick Theater, be amazed that Abstinance-only doesn't work, Be electrified at the Secret Wars Re-enactment Society, goggle your eyes at Transformers Cosplay, and faint with glee while watching Transformers Movie Trailers. Man, if this movie somehow _doesn't_ rule, there'll be hell to pay, by Primus!

Edit: More linky things, this time permanent ones. Read the blogs Pam's House Blend and Pandagon, then look at the pretty pictures in Candi and Home on the Strange.
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... For "Inappropriate kissing". Certain apologists have, predictably, claimed that this is in NO WAY analogous to a restaurant refusing to serve black customers*, since those oversexed homos could act straight for a few hours if they really wanted to. I suppose there is a certain logic to that. I've been told by deaf people that before the Americans with Disabilities Act, it was perfectly legal for restaurants to kick them out because their signing "disturbed the other customers". I'm sure the apologists would defend the restaurants in those cases too, since it wasn't their deafness that got them discriminated against, it was their 'behavior'.

*But is PERFECTLY analogous to a restaurant refusing to serve mixed-race couples. Then again, the freepers probably have a problem with that too.
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[ profile] pecunium points us to this right-wing blog survey, where among other questions, 'Conservative' bloggers are asked: "Do you think that a majority of Democrats in Congress would like to see us lose in Iraq for political reasons?" to which 84% said "Yes!".

Now, this is very interesting. You go back to last November's archives for those blogs, and you will find hundreds upon hundred of reader comments (and sometimes posts from the bloggers themselves) expressing the opinion that the election results warrented another 9/11, either to "Punish Defeat-o-crat voters" or to "Wake people up". Yet if someone were to conclude that these sentiments were proof that "The Majority of Republicans would like to see more terrorist attacks on US soil for political reasons", why, they'd be declared clinically insane. Go figure...


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